My Venus conjunct his north node in 12 Pisces , and his Venus conjunct my vertex on desc ..From my part, I felt the karmic connexion.I was sure I need to do something with him, teach him something, Learn something from him..and I felt the sexual attraction also ( we have Sun/Pluto in 8 Scorpio) but,guess what? I have also experienced it as not wanting anyone to know about the relationship or not knowing where you stand. My 12th-Houser Sun/Gem Moon/Sag BROUGHT OUT MY OWN GEMINI COMPORTMENT, and then I also remembered that I had started out as Twins but that my Twin didnt make it in the womb. Lifelong, apparently Dad was a Sun/Gemini, Mom was a Sun/Scorpio the WORST connective relationship ever! If it's a night chart, Venus is more powerful and the strongest benefic in the chart. Hello Everyone,I can relate to alot of the post that I've read. Be direct, ask questions, dig deep, ask for proof and confirmation. You have a tendency to fall in love with people who re not available, and . The Venus person embodies the ideal partner of the Juno person. All of the guys whom I'm involved above have stellium especially benefic planets in my 12th house. Required fields are marked *. It felt a bit cruel because he acted as if he was so I felt led on as he observed me slowly falling in love Anyway With my heavy Saturn influence ( Venus in cancer in 10th opposite Saturn + stellium in 4th house) I dont do well with non committed relationships and I felt what he did lacked integrity so I just left it there as I would not have been fulfilled. In hindsight, I now believe that my 12th Houser is just that. Who knows! I FEEL like he's controlling his emotions for some reason unknown to me. like a Gemini (no offense meant) they are both good and evil, but THEIR Evil Twin often does the acting out. Are you afraid to admit your feelings? I believe it caused a lot of confusing both for him n I. As a matter of fact it's very difficult to word. Tabitha has Venus in 12th House Pisces. I thaught his strange behavior had something to do with this. Leave no traces where you can be found, as these BAD 12th-Housers seem to be emotional vampires, and thus really get off on feeding off of YOU, your fears and trepidation. (Waving). Although my guy is very vulnerable with me as well, he is still more controlled than I, in the sharing of deeper things (probably his Scorp rising). As you said, these people were my ideal. Sadly, I was the house person and hopelessly in love, while the Venus person would not admit their feelings even though we both knew they did feel for me, just like I felt for them.. Actually, the guy told me "I love you, *insert my name here*" while we were in class, but we barely knew each other and I didn't know if he was being serious.. later on he denied it said it was a joke (but it wasn't). (Waving with both hands) thanks much for the updates. which is terribly disturbing for anyone who doesnt want to face things. Sometimes because we were deluded by the other, sometimes because we deluded ourselves, or saw things that were not really there at all, we felt they were, but that's not what they were. But I have to work with him and Im afraid he can realize and maybe use this against me. I am very partnered elsewhere in my life but looked up his chart because he feels like family or someone i knew in a past life or something. Now it doesn't happen that often but I can say that as the house person, I'm almost always affected by someone who has Venus in my 12th and if it aspects some of my planets. Im so sorry for the delay! I have found myself on a couple of occasions asking, "Why in the world did I just tell him that?" Some are evil and just want to get in your pants. I leave, but I always come back after a while. Its like the subconscious need to help him grow as a person. he is not interested, so I need to move onThe way I found of doing it is trying to understand why this happen. Oh lord: Hi, Steph sorry for the long delay in responding. ), but at the same time on his POSITIVE/GOOD TWIN sign I recognized parts of myself that were. I wouldnt say its a bad experience but Id personally avoid 12th house placements. For example, you may not be a needy person, but you find yourself being very needy or vulnerable around the house person. The feeling that I am the only one dealing with the 12th house issues is so painful. Not without good reason, psychic and spiritual connections are not all that common, but they show us what exists beyond this physical world. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I can feel his worries and I always know what to say. Venus in 10th House synastry indicates a kind of built in security since both partners feel comfortable with their relationship no matter where they end up geographically. On top of this, his Pluto is either square or conjunction my NN, Im pretty sure its the square. Neptune idealizes, and makes everything much more beautiful it rules feelings of ecstacy, perfection and the feelings of soulmates but he's a tricky fella once we fall from the high, it's hard to get over.It's not usually til much later we want to slap ourselves when the Neptune fog clears and reality set's in. Orange. Let me you move along. It was beautiful and tragic, and the deepest feelings I ever had.. His Venus is also conjunct my Pluto and we also have Venus square Venus. he still talks with a kind voice which i hate of being him a hypocrite.what does the whole thing means? I jokingly used to call myself serial monogamist. He was a cancer rising, Scorpio moon, sun in Gemini in the 12th. We had an affair that was hidden, even though I would have given everything to be with him full time. What do you think? Mine lasted for nearly 3 years amid a ton of torment, aching for his love, trying to understand the hostility, the mental/spiritual abuse, trying to help him .. all SORTS of goodies/1 In the end, it was me that jumped ship; who needs that kind of nonsense in ones life? and my northnode conjuct on his jupiter and saturn on my 2nd house. It is because mars is a harsher planet? Double whammies in my opinion are like gateways of energy between the two people the energy is mutual, open, and receptive- going both ways. This happens for me with my Neptune in the 1st house I can take in people's feelings, illness or a array of different things that pass through me temporarily. Its completely one sided, I have no hope. The element of secrecy makes their relationship intense and glamorous. We have our suns, moons, venus and mars all the same sign and his neptune falls into my 12th house. I kept believing he felt the same as I did, but that for this reason he couldnt give into it. Same thingsso magnetiche is plutonian, and his pluto trine my moon and sextile my venus and semisextile my sun. Double whammies. No WONDER I cant get it on for long with my Gemini partners . My 12th house Saturn conjunct his NN and His Chiron and Saturn conjunct my NN. The general claim is that it disturbs the person whose twelfth house is activated. For instance, my Sun and Venus land in the 12th house of my ex/long term best friend. It's true that when someone touches our soul in deep connection, they could teach us a lesson. they have told me the same.one of them told me his feelings too late after i was already in a relationship and i met the other while i was in the same one. The 12th House!! The planet Venus takes its name from the Roman goddess of love, lust, beauty and fertility. A stripping of the egos for sure! Some would be uncomfortable with someone seeping into their dreams or communicating with them in the ethereal realm. We also share moon Conj Mars, moon and Pluto Conj & trine. Pluto in your partners 1st This placement can be very powerful between two people that are attracted to each other in a love relat Jupiter in synastry represents where we will inspire, encourage and instill faith in our partners, and even addthem luck. The house person will feel good with the Venus person and they will share a psychic connection that is quite powerful. Just give it time and have moderately high standards for yourself. such beautiful love, they put it behind the scene. Will this ever end!?!?? I think anyway 12th house is involved. Oh yes i read about that but hes not like that at all. Every synastry aspect Ive read into says that he should have felt more for me and I just dont know if that could be possible. inscryption cards. You find yourself so drawn to them, and you will find them irresistible. It s killing me . i did not have any dreams of them. As if something beyond ourself is guiding us.what is this shit, ive been asking me many many timesand is there a way to get over this?? Hes cuddly and affectionate so that makes up for it. No he is the Venus in Cancer. I didnt want to talk about it untill he would be back home. I loved his soul. He understands me in a very deep level. The relationship functions mostly on an unconscious level and there is often much misunderstood or misinterpreted if you arent very clear in your speaking with each other. Sometimes the experience in this house is painful other times it's purely magical. Most often, this includes banking, art and value-related activities. You can be very supportive and will enjoy much of your time alone together away from it all. He knows exactly how I feel about him because I've told him precisely and he doesn't feel the same way but he is always so concerned about if I'm dating/talking with anyone. Also VenusianMoon, the outside person (your boyfriend?) I can not understand entirely the situation just based on those aspects there is a lot to Astrology I would need to see all the charts in order to properly comment any further. I wish you luck in dealing with your guy; maybe it will turn out sweeter than what I went through. Registered: May 2009. posted June 11, 2013 02:39 PM. i do notice that if someone has 12th house moon and im also 12th moon, we mirror eachother. Thats so commendable of you to always have a welcome for him in your heart. He bitches if i drink too much wine lol. When we met I felt like I had seen him before..we started talking online then decided to meet. The Ascendant person feels an unconditional love when the other one is around. My moon falls in someone's 12th house. To me and my daughter since we both dont have our dads. Boy did WE clash, but seemingly there were no 12th House synastries between us. And there is a very strong square between his Mars and my own, which creates a lot of stress between us at times, and his Saturn is square my Venus. November 9, 2012 astrologyanonymous27 5 Comments. The comments here suggest that he could be affected, but I noticed that in these cases the planet person fell into the house person's 12th, but the house person's planets also fell into their intense houses (1st, 7th, 5th, etc).I have north node in his 12th, but nothing else falls into his 12th. and in only one instance where the connection has lasted throughout many years with us now being friends, of sorts. In synastry, when someone's Venus is in your 2nd House, this person is a supportive influence for you. We face the same situation when someone touch our 12th house. Or someone is misleading someone (deliberately or otherwise). I only noticed it after my 12th-Houser came into my life and affected me deeply that is when my own natal Gemini placement came out in me full and strong. Okay, so you're saying (as the Venus person in other people's 12th house in the past) that Aqua Venus people will make their affections quite obvious to the 12th house person? As somebody with a 10th house stellium, including Mars, Moon, & Venus with Aries on the midheavenif somebody fails to openly display their feelings for me, Im gone. I've also found when we fought and were out of touch, I could feel how upset and rattled he was when he couldn't reach me. When I think about it, it makes me sad we aren't together. I often attract men who has Leo personal planets which falls in my 12th house. It rules creativity, beauty, diplomacy the arts and is representative of our physical and tangible . Mars in 12th house plus all the unease Im feeling is scary and terrifying. but I must admit they FASCINATE me!! Trish how did you get over it!?! JavaScript is disabled. He scares me sometimes because he has a violent tendency and I think he activated my 12th house because all of a sudden Im afraid to be with him for the rest of my life even though I know we were made for each other. Wow! This house offers the opportunity to discover these things so we can let them go and live a life with less baggage and more happiness. 12th house synastry is way too murky for me to tangle with. The 12th house is karmic for both for good or not so good both come through this house.:). Hi,this is illuminating reading for me :)Recently one man has very special influence on me and his Sun, Mars, Moon and Mercury (although Mercury is very close to my Asc) fall in my 12th house.He just gets me like no one does, or ever did. I can feel him, seeing many good things in him that he never aware. OH! Any planet in the 12th house is aiming for something beyond its grasp. I know I can read him more accurately than anyone else in his life and it scares him sometimes. Elsa tried to warn me, but I couldnt hear. I dont know if he really loves me but Ive never felt this connected with someone before. i had experience with a guy who have 4 benefic planets in my 12th house. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. THAT is a swift ender for my 3-placement Leo (read: THE QUEEN) who became TOTALLY OFFENDED by his antics. Hi Sharmeen, I am very sorry, unfortunately 12th house connections can sometimes reflect deceptions, it is the house of hidden things, secrets etc.. Howd you get over him and stop thinking about him? Jupiter i Mars is aggressive by nature but the sign and house, and aspects made to him will alter how he plays out in synastry. Venus trine Pluto, sun and Saturn trine. I felt, I felt sooo hard, in a glance, while looking in his eyes, and feeling like I had know this person for ages. You need to be clear in areas such as this, find out why you met this person or they you? We finally realize wait, where are they, why are they not here if we feel so strongly about each other? because it hurts to know this about yourself, or just accept it. Wow . More so after 15 years. few months later he married her. My Sun, Venus and MErcury are in Aries and fall into his 12th, my moon in Sagittarius falls int his 7th and 8th and his moon in Scorpio into my 5th and his jupiter into my 1st. Posts: 1873From: GeorgiaRegistered: May 2009. there are two people who have venus in my 12th i just adore. Are they always honest to each other when 12 house is involved? NO THANKS!!! Venus Synastry in the Houses PATH-STROLOGY Utilizing Astrology to Find Your Path Home Natal Placements / Aspects Synastry Placements / Aspects Composite Placements / Aspects Planet: Sun Planet: Moon Planet: Mars Planet: Venus Planet: Jupiter Planet: Uranus Planet: Pluto Asteroids + Points Celebrities / The Infamous Past Life Astrology Posts: 2196 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011: posted March 08, 2013 01:12 PM . I also was getting crazy muscle twitches. So strange in this 12th house. Its like that alcoholics anonymous quote of acceptance of who you are thats why its not good for people to judge other people because they are not and never understand how to live in their shoes. Questions like "Why do I feel so attracted to this person?" seems to come to mind when they are in each other's presence. It proves that Venus is created for sharing purity, love, and spirituality in the world, when in a good state. And also my Pluto is trine his Venus. How do you reckon you and him approach 12th house matters like spirituality, illusion, Neptune stuff? It is a great placement in synastry, of course depending on other aspects to the degree. Best wishes to you dear, you will find the right one for you, be patient and don't accept anything less! This is the 1st time I've ever felt like I've met my other half.. my soulmate. It's as if its a fairytale, make belive love and Im in a dream. And it is hard and painful for a physical person like me. But it just feels like i knew him before. I would be very interested as always in hearing about any findings or further experience or information you can conjur up! has Sun conjunct Saturn, they natrually have a hard time showing their affections and are very fatherly, 12th house gives you a very spiritual feeling almost like they could be your soulmate, it can be pretty intense ad consuming so if your not very spiritual/aware of yourself or in a good place in life, you might have a hard time feeling this energy or wanting to accept it, its different, its not so much lustful, its just friggin beautiful, you wanna make love to that person and cuddle them, i also have an empty 12th housei could love this energy so much possibly because aqua venuses that land there most of time trine my moon.i feel like if someones planets fall in 12th AND also aspect sun/moon/asc, youll be able to accept and recieve this awesome energy more. It's amazing. The 12th house person often has difficulty seeing the true nature of the planet and in the extreme this person might actually encourage you to become your own worst enemy. But I didn't consider him anymore. Tense aspects can be difficult to overcome. And I discovered that I had a stellium of Sun, mars, Mercury and venus in his twelfth house, while his planets sun, moon, venus, mars, jupiter, neptune where all in my seventh house.His AC opposite's my venus.Our Sun Mutually Aspects Pluto aswell as Moon Mutually Aspects Mars. It's very common to do with placements in this house. This is the house of Venus and Taurus, so there will also be some jealousy and protectiveness of each other as well. Posts: 15From: united statesRegistered: Jun 2013. Someone help Ive done so much research on this but I was with this guy for like a year and then he ghosted me, disappeared deleted all social media, but I still dream about him and think about him frequently and its been 3 years. It is spiritual for both people, but sometimes this is why the relationships seem to be so painful if they end. Sigh.. The following is important: Is this a day chart or a night chart (was the sun up or down when the person was born). Where your Venus falls in your partner's chart shows where you bring these energies into their life. I have recently encountered a gentleman whose Gem Sun, Mercury, Tau Mars and North Node falls in my 12th. To the point it's hard to explain to others especially because we're no longer together. I have to admit that I, with my usual 3/Sag and 3/Leo stelliums went after HIM because I was so sure he was my soul mate. His acts of ghosting you and shutting you down via social media makes me think that he might also be a tad sociopathic thats a common trait. Venus, in the 8th house in synastry, reveals a bitter relationship between partners. It is a hard process . so the judging becomes like, omg i am judging myself kind of thing lol I beleive this is mostly for those aware and can face truth/accept themselves however greatly flawed and love themselves. So Im confused about being confused lol Im dating someone all of our planets are 12th house but my natal chart is 12th house filled already.. everyone in his family knows about me and everyone in my family knows about him they know were also expecting a baby and so does social media lol .. Good- have found your posting your threads really helpful to me too..trying to suss all this out too! And I do, I don't ever want to judge or criticize him. I feel like we are very secretive together though like we are very codependent on one another and thats really it ..so far .. ive seen it many times in others too. Lol. People who are willing to fully trust can let themselves loose in the 12th house if you show hesitation than it can make a big difference. But I was raised by a Sun/Scorpio mother (with her Moon in Sagittarius) and Virgo ASC. Accept all plexaderm rapid reduction serum in india Manage preferences. Im going through a bunch of Uranus and Pluto square transits right now and I have a very strong feeling this will not survive. Specific to you, the overlay situation might have some play here, but my guess is that theres more to this story. Your email address will not be published. Oh . But how can I be sure.. its the 12th house.. Hi everyone (waving)!! I guess the best way I can describe it is as if it's partially a dream. When wondering around in someones 12th or they in yours? One is Taurus and the other is Libra. We have other aspects in synastry that are more positive, but the Mars issues come up a lot. This is because there are endless ways these things can play. Sometimes it's strange and you can't make sense of it. I can sense when he needs something even when he isn't next to me. Hanging onto him and wishing for return engagements may bring you much heartache, and even loss he might be a sociopath and if that is how he rolls you could lose much in the ways of material goods. We exist in very different worlds and it just is not convenient to tell him. Anyone else care to share? W. hen someone's Venus falls in your 1st house, that person probably finds you physically attractive. If neither one has any issues like these then the relationship does not need to take on such a heavy role and can then be about many of the positive aspects of this house. You have to distract yourself in as many ways as possible, do other things, meet other people. We've been seeing each other for over a month now. The descriptions of 12th house Venus in synastry always ring true for me, but I'm always the house person, so it totally sucks being so affected by someone who hides their feelings. Either come correct or go away. I'm currently talking to someone where my Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter fall into their 12th house. Im all thumbs up, though, for those who do not nave the bad effects of a 12th House synastry. Neither did he. He makes me breakdown so many barriers. Especially natal charts and composite charts. You will find yourself smitten to this house person. The Venus conjunct Juno synastry aspect is a frequent aspect in the charts of couples, and so is Juno trine Venus in synastry. Unless he is catering to the spiritual side of you, its just not a good place for Mars to be in. ------------------Air woman. His mars is in my 12th house. The 12th House is also known as the House of mystery while Venus symbolizes intuition and artful communication. My ex-12th Houser has Venus/Cancer which made it difficult for him to open up, unless it was totally on HIS terms. Take the love goggles off. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Very confusing . All 12th House relationships are not bad; mine was. Yes, assumptions is one thing that takes place a lot in this house. I was more into him from the very beginning I went after HIM and found out that he really resented it. However, I still cannot get him out of my headlike there is no better man out there. I don't know. His venus in your 12th, according to what I know, probably means that you're attracted because he brings out hidden parts of you. But, he is the one who has been a sort of confessional from the very beginning. Although this house offers both our soul mate or our enemy, along with our fears, phobias, and those things we that we do that undermine our happiness. Im so obsessed with him. That 12th house is a tricky one, and both charts would be helpful in sorting through all that. but initially he said so many kind words to me. I guess some things are just not meant to be. He got married, told me so and yet said that nothing will change. The Venus would be read as being in your first house since the conjunction is so close to your Ascendant. With the negative aspect, the "Plutonian" personality can show jealousy and possessive tendencies toward the "Venusian" one, trying . Best wishes to you darling and thank you for sharing your story :), I just read the previous 12th house story and the aspects are nearly the same as with the guy I am seeing. It's not of this world, it's spiritual and . You WILL find an emotionally available, decent man if you dont settle on lesser models. So, it's painful when such love is not returned, like part of me is out there without a chance of getting it back.Lilly, Oh my.what a 12th house story:) this house leaves a deep imprint and we are often left with longings for what could have been. Knowflake. Some dont want to, ever. Obsessive, perhaps a bit and with your planets in the 8th I am sure it's not one way:). The 12th house usually involves secret love affairs and unrequited love. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29420, http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14081. Never felt this way in my life. So we became " friends" . GOD-awful!! You are using an out of date browser. How do you think it would play out his Mars in 12th conjunct my Ascendant???. lol He also has his Mercury conjuncting my Sun in the 8th house and his Venus conjuncts my Venus as well as his Mars conjuncts my Mars. Horoscope, dating, astrology, forecast, relationships | 12andus Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. It might be like having an itch you cant scratch. I dont know despite how he treats me I just always want to help him and at the time I thought if needing space was what would help him fine but I can never seem to tell him that. The moon represents our instincts, our moods, our feelings and emotional responses along with how we nurture, feel nurtured, the wo North and South node connections in synastry are very powerful and often fated. Ouch!We do not see clearly, we imagine things differently than they are, we trust, we assume, we are not working with facts but what we want to believe and feelings. Disappointments come because we think there is something more even when the person has clearly said there's not. Such a mystical house - offers so much yet sometime so little. Please also note that having Venus in the 12th means very little without a lot of context. He seem to know all about me even i don't tell or exposed my darkest psyche to him. Love you, Elsa many thanks for this wonderful forum! Then when I tell him, he has this quiet way of breaking through all the **** and getting to the heart of it, but in a really gentle way. But all of my life I have been in the habit of TWOISMS . Its vague, wet, murky and the fog is dense, we need to rely on our intuition, but our intuition is skewed here, so what is one to do? I know the Pluto-Moon opposition would usually involve some obsession but not sure about the Pluto-Saturn conjunct opposing moon. If he is also your 12th Houser, please know that anything with him will be brief, for the most part, or there will be a series of back-and-forth connections with intervals of his ghosting you for long periods. No way, jose. We are from different countries. If his actions speak (this would be something your pick up on intuitively) that he loves you, but his words dont. and NO MORE 12TH HOUSE PARTNERS FOR ME!! more than likely you will see, there is a very big reason:) Often they are a teacher when it's a good person, or you have something to teach them. I attracted those people in my relationship. But I always wonder if he feels the same because the 12th house is illusive, So many sites / people say that it is only the house person that will be affected / obsessed. Please see special article on The 12th house synastry along with Neptune Moon Aspects for the descriptions will explain in greater detail. someone's venus in my 12th, feel unconditional/boundless love for him. It can point to an affair or clandestine encounter. and yes check your saturn sometimes saturn can point to what you don't likebut then again it cam be good and make you feel comfortable with someomethats why overall picture of synastry is so important!!!!! The first thing to . Im not about mind-games or double messages or emotional landmines waiting in the trenches. There is a guy with his scorpio stellium (venus, moon, and pluto) in my 12th house, with his venus/pluto conjunct my Asc/pluto. He shows me he cares with actions and he has told me twice he is in love with me. Their is so much fear between us. I actually feel I treated him wrong although he was a person whos been there for me when I was going through the hard time. Oh one more thing: I am a Sun, Venus & Jupiter/Sag native and my Venus is opposite to my 12th House Gemini placement (Uranus-RETRO). Any help would be greatly appreciated.p.s., any planet people willing to share their experience with their planets in someone's 12th would also be appreciated, As far as who feels what.. it would make sense they both would feel it since one persons planet is being housed ( in a environment) therefore the planet is being influenced also by the house person in their approach and the others is bringing the energy influence. You are BLESSED!! Also, my sun/venus are in his 10th, moon in his 5th, mars in his 4th. and yourself? Combust! It could be due to different things.. like the planet person is insecure/shy/doesn't wanna show their love in an open way, or just that the house person doesn't "get" the planet person's way of loving. The 12th house Synastry: Love behind the scenes. I think what really happens is too much is shared to quickly, many secrets, and hidden parts of oneself and why things often get complicated. I love him, he opens me up to questions I would never put a name to but a part of me just wants to run away where he cant find me. His Venus is trine my Mars. I have something of a business relationship with someone. What he did to you was cowardly. Will you tell me what this mean in synastry?