The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. They did not seal the island, contaminated the crime scene and now have allowed these boats to get away. September 20: Investigators now say there is no evidence to suggest Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were together on the day they died, with CCTV footage showing Mr Miller walking alone at around 1am. All rights reserved. WARNING CONTAINS SOME DISTURBING IMAGES OF DEATH. Officers revealed they are working on the theory that David Miller, 24, and Hannah Witheridge, 23, were killed in a copycat attack of the rape and murder of Reading University student Katherine Horton, 21, who was murdered by two Thai fishermen on the nearby island of Koh Samui on New Years Day in 2006. If we haven't already, we should delete the crime scene photo previously posted in a "spoiler", out of respect to the family's wishes. Andrew Rosindell, a member of the Commons foreign affairs committee, said: 'What is most worrying about these comments is the underlying implication about those who have been murdered that they have somehow brought it upon themselves.'. I took your advice and read up on it instead of looking at the photos and I'm still disturbed. Dunno if this is what your looking for but emmet till. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. A British male, thought to have known the two, was named as a person of interested and hunted by police after allegedly fleeing the island on an early ferry for Bangkok. They followed the animal and discovered that it had been feeding on Elise's remains, which were found among rocks behind the Tanote Family Bay Resort. While Thai police are still investigating their deaths (the Burmese migrant workers, Zaw Lin and Win Zaq Htun, both 21, who previously confessed have now withdrawn their confessions) shocking photos of the backpackers' bodies are now circulating online, leaving their loved ones understandably horrified and disgusted. An unexplained fire that evening burned down three bamboo huts, including the one Elise had been staying in. German Bernd Grotsch's body was found at his home deep in the jungle in the Mae Haad part of Koh Tao. 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Police have so far failed to tie anyone to the murders, David Miller (left) may have been trying to help Hannah Witheridge (right) as she was being attacked by a group on the Thai island of Koh Tao last Sunday, new evidence suggests, Police are hunting this man filmed running frantically away from the beach on the night of the murders, Another added: This is the latest in a series of bungles in this investigation. It was suggested the 24-year-old returned to his hotel but went back out to find Miss Witheridge before they were both murdered. Lining people along the beach, they measured their feet in order to make a comparison to footprints left in the sand near the murdered Brits' bodies. Personal trainer, 22, describes what working in the fitness industry is like when you're curvy - and why Jon Jones vs Ciryl Gane - UFC 285 LIVE: Follow all the action from main card ahead of HUGE heavyweight PETER HITCHENS: Now we know for sure that our leaders lost their heads over Covid. September 17: Thai police admit they have 'no idea' who killed David Miller and Hannah Witheridge after failing to link any of 12 suspects to the crime. The body had to be identified using dental records and previous X-rays. Hannah was raped before she was killed. Police concluded she wanted to break a deep-diving record at more than 24 meters. This is not for the faint hearted but as you are studying the subject, Im sure you will be fine. In a police interview Mr Ware told officers that David then told him he was going out to get some cigarettes but another friend revealed he went instead to nightclub AC to meet up with Hannah and her friend Emma Madeline. Nick's father, Graham, had been the last person to see him when he walked with his son back to where the family was staying. The governor of the island said he had instructed the district chief to file criminal charges against the local online news outlet Samui Times in 2017 after it ran an article that questioned the police account of deaths and referred to Koh Tao as Death Island. Despite claims of a fall, he had no broken bones. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Do you know this baby? Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found close to bungalows where they had been staying, Thai police say two men have confessed to killing Hannah Witheridge and David Miller, Koh Tao is a popular destination for tourists, Harry: I always felt different to rest of family, Chris Rock talks Oscars slap in live Netflix show, Everything Everywhere wins big ahead of Oscars, PM to end asylum claims from small boat arrivals, Mbappe breaks PSG goal record in win over Nantes, US-made cheese can be called 'gruyere' - court. The family claimed the circumstances surrounding his death and the local police's refusal to co-operate with them have led them to believe the death is "suspicious". With crystal-clear waters, perfect sandy beaches, palm trees and great nightlife. On February 16, 2015, Russian tourist Valentina Novozhyonova, 23, vanished from her hostel on Koh Tao. Hannah Witheridge & David Miller: British backpackers murdered in Thailand 2014. There were no signs he was suicidal. Elise's mother Michele van Egten says she does not believe the Thai police's version of events amid fears authorities are working to suppress speculation about the many murders on the island. His body was found at the beach at the Hillside Resort on Koh Tao, on January 1, 2014. Mr Miller was spotted shaking the hand of a local person dressed in a football shirt with the number 9 on the back of it. The Samui Times believes that it is in the best interests of any visitor to the island to be aware of the numerous tourist deaths and the fact that many families of those who died on the island are not satisfied with police investigations.. They think our country is beautiful and is safe so they can do whatever they want, they can wear bikinis and walk everywhere. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6729031/thailand-koh-tao-island-dad-dead-mystery/, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-30546787, https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/17/sister-murdered-backpacker-hannah-witheridge-dies-falling-gravely/, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53797951, https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1282946/police-clarify-koh-tao-death-cases, https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1047575-death-island-riddle%C2%A0-koh-tao-mystery-deepens-as-%E2%80%98healthy%E2%80%99-dad-becomes-tenth-westerner-to-die-in-suspicious-circumstances/, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4680394/Haunting-final-image-Koh-Tao-backpacker-Thai-hang-suicide.html, https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/thailands-death-island-tourist-33-13399601, https://www.chiangraitimes.com/crime-chiang-rai-thailand/body-of-moldavian-tourist-found-dead-in-sea-off-the-island-koh-tao-sent-to-bangkok-for-thorough-autopsy/, https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/443983/suter-hanspeter-body-found-on-beach-in-chumphon-thailand, Koh Tao Murders, Suspicious Deaths, Fatal Accidents Tribute to 20 Foreigners Tony Lotus & 1Survivor, Tagged: Koh Tao - Death Island in Paradise, Cases on the Death Island of Koh Tao, nick pearson koh tao death, The coroner concluded there was not enough evidence to say where or how he met his death. Official: Queen's University Belfast A100 2023 Entry, I'm withdrawing my Uni application 2 days before the uni interview, should I say some. Bernds family in Ingolstadt, Germany, said that the authorities told them he had died of heart failure or had been bitten by a snake. A judge found the workers guilty and sentenced them to death despite questions about DNA evidence and the police handling of the case. Due to the nature of her passing, our beautiful girl has had little privacy. Bernd's cousin Christina said: ''We cannot accept what the Thai authorities on the island are telling us. A woman Povse had been interested in said he had called her twice on the phone that night but she had not picked up because she had been asleep. When the bodies of British tourists 23-year-old Hannah Witheridge and 24-year-old David Miller were found brutally murdered on the remote Thai island of Koh Tao, the police immediately concluded that the killer had to be a foreigner, as a Thai person couldn't be capable of such brutality. Frenchman, Dimitri Povse, 29, was found hanging from the beam of a rented house on January 1, 2015. Police later say Miss Witheridge may not have been raped as first suggested following an autopsy on her body. What they did was fairly run of the mill for the Jim Crow South. Ten days after he went missing from Sairee Beach on Koh Tao, the body of Swiss tourist Hans Peter Suter, 44, was washed ashore at Talay Ngam beach in Lang Suan district of Chumphon province on Tuesday, November 18, 2014. said General Prayuth Chan-O-Cha in a televised speech. Later, police released CCTV footage which they claimed showed the students walking hand-in-hand down a street. A local Western businessman though, who did not want to be named, criticised the police for allowing the boats to leave. The bodies of Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Hemsby, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey, were found on a Koh Tao beach. Although both of his hands were tied behind the back, the police said he could have done this himself as the rope was tied to one hand and a loop was made so the other hand could be inserted. Police say it could be of a witness to the double murder, a suspect or of Miss Witheridge herself. The bodies of Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Hemsby, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey, were found on a Koh Tao beach. 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It has long had a reputation as a home for organized crime, corruption and as a place where the police protected local interests. Revealed: The top 10 fastest-growing destinations for UK pensioners retiring overseas. Edit: ah, I didnt realise you said crime scene photos, these were photos taken at the funeral. Official UCL 2023 Undergraduate Applicants Thread, Which is better Durham or Southampton for Bsc Accoutring and Finance, Official Cambridge Postgraduate Applicants 2023 Thread, The Russell Group hurt/heal game (Part 5), Diagnostic Radiography 3rd year, Ask me anything (healthcare related), TSR Community Awards 2022: Feedback and Suggestions, TSR Community Awards 2022: Most Helpful in Universities- VOTING OPEN. British Bricklayer Luke Miller, 26, was found at the bottom of a swimming pool at the Sunset Bar at Sairee Beach on January 6, 2016. Could you please describe them? The pictures, which News Corp . They had been brutally beaten to death just a few feet away from their hotel rooms. I just warned that sometimes people have to be careful today Thailand is safe except there are some bad guys - like anywhere in the world.'. There is a suggestion Mr Miller was coming to her aid when he was also killed. Police in Thailand investigating the murder of two British backpackers suspect they were killed by two fishermen who then fled in a boat as CCTV images showing the couples last fateful movements in Koh Tao came to light last night. Samui Times defended its reporting in an online post. "Time makes the pain of this horrendous tragedy no easier to bear," they said in a statement. We are aware of the Katherine case and are checking out the possibility that something similar could have happened, he said. After the attack they swam to their boat and boasted to their colleagues. Thailand is Cambodia's neighbor to the West, and this forum is dedicated to Thai news, stories, reviews, blogs, videos, Thai people and anything else related to the country. In September 2014, two European backpackers, Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found murdered on Sairee Beach on Thailand's island of Koh Tao. Last month, the tragic revelation that backpackers Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh . They were arrested and tried and identified by Till's uncle. Thai police efforts are blasted a 'joke' by residents as officials admit they are looking for 'multiple' suspects but do not know how many. 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The authorities said he had died after striking the diving board from which he was jumping. Cambodia Expats Online is the most popular community in the country. The fact that people e-mailed her family the photos while pretending to be Nikki was enough. Miss Witheridge's family said "senseless" photos of the crime scene had added to . The economy of the island is almost exclusively centered on tourism, especially scuba diving. After what must have been an incomprehensibly painful month for the families of Hannah and David, the fact that painfully graphic not to mention wholly unnecessary photos of their bodies are being shared online is difficult to understand, particularly given that questions are yet to be answered about what exactly lead to their deaths. "So for an hour the families of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller looked and listened as crime scene pictures were . Probably the links to those photos on other sites also. 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Copyright The Student Room 2023 all rights reserved. September 15: The semi-naked bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller are discovered between 5am and 6am on Sairee Beach in Koh Tao on September 15. The two men were convicted and sentenced in 2015 and the verdict was upheld by an appeals court in 2017 and the Supreme Court in August 2019. He got killed in a racist attack by several white men. PLEASE read up on the case first before looking for the leaked photos. Police said that DNA semen samples taken from Hannahs body were from two men, both Asian. Hannah was a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman who will be sorely missed by all who knew her. Friends and family remain suspicious of the police investigation and the insistence that Dimitri committed suicide, especially as his hands were tied behind his back. The last known video footage of the Russian woman showed her walking to Chaloke Hin Kao bay and never coming back. "Hannah was a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman who will be sorely missed by all who knew her.". Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh Tao. Thailands prime minister, Prayuth Chan-ocha, questioned the attire and behavior of foreign female tourists shortly after the killing of two British backpackers, David Miller and Hannah Witheridge on the island in 2014. I work in digital forensics so I've seen a ton of NSFL stuff and thought I was pretty numb. "We beg that Hannah and David are afforded privacy and dignity through the removal of these pointless and insensitive reminders," they said. Five days since the . -, Press J to jump to the feed. The worst part is her face. Koh Tao Mayor Chaiyan Thurasakul said the website is accused of damaging Koh Taos reputation by calling it Death Island. Here, a breakdown of the investigation shows how the frantic hunt for backpackers' killers has unfolded. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: Imperial House, 2nd Floor, 40-42 Queens Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 3XB, Taking a break or withdrawing from your course, http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/thailand-police-parade-burmese-killers-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller-in-front-of-cameras-on-koh-tao-30635263.html, http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-10-03/funeral-of-murdered-leeds-university-student/, Official Imperial College 2023 Undergraduate Applicants Thread. The problem with TikToks Bold Glamour filter, Who has Dua Lipa dated? oh my god the Thailand crime scene photos have honestly scarred me for life. Deaths have been explained away by the authorities as unfortunate accidents or suicides. She was also part of the Sathya Sai Baba cult and lived with a self-proclaimed 'guru'. Island authorities sued the online news site for violating the Computer Crime Act, which outlaws uploading false information online. I have never had the courage to look. A lot of expats have both lived and worked in Cambodia and Thailand, and this area is a place to discuss all aspects of life in Thailand and what's going on there. Me too :' ( she was almost unrecognizable. "Thai courts make little allowance for the feelings of relatives," he said. The crime's brutality amid Koh Tao's insular, backpacker charm caused an international sensation and threatened to further weaken a tourist industry already reeling from the military coup of . Police believe that, just like in her murder, the two latest victims may have been killed by fishermen who swam ashore in order to target foreigners. Im asking if they wear bikinis in Thailand, will they be safe? Need advertising? He originally moved to the island in the late 1990s but left in 2016 after becoming frustrated with the corruption and hostility towards foreign business owners. Hannah and a friend were spotted on CCTV walking down the main strip of Koh Tao towards Choppers bar at 7pm on Sunday. On 15 September, the bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found on Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao, between 4 and 5 am, a few hours after their deaths.Both victims had been hit several times on the head; Witheridge had been raped, and Miller had been drowned. DO NOT go in blind. Very gruesome, theres one photo of his parents looking at him in the coffin and I really cant imagine what they mustve felt knowing theyd lost their son, he was murdered for nothing, and the horrible thing they were looking at was him. September 16: DNA samples taken from the scene do not match those of any of a reported 12 suspects. It was later revealed the couple in the images were not Miss Witheridge and Mr Miller. The convictions were mired in controversy, with supporters of the two men arguing they had been framed because their initial confessions were made under duress. At 7.47pm David and his friend Chris Ware were filmed walking towards the bar. After you reached Thailand and began your job I am certain that you would have explored Thailand and realized that what you saw in the streets and other parts of Thailand matches what was mentioned in the . They were acts of extreme barbarity. Officers have taken the details of the fishing boats moored off the islands Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao. Prior to your posting to Thailand you must have received a report of this country in terms of its corruption, poverty, murder and crime rates. Typically you won't see crime scene pictures on there, especially ones this brutal. Not so shipshape! Can they be safe in bikinis unless they are not beautiful?. Those images are shocking because Till is barely recognizable as a human. Absolutely brutal murder but I think they have the wrong people. If you enjoyed Oliver Sacks book, you might like this photo project. We hope you'll do the same? Deputy police chief spokesman Col Kissana Phathanacharoen said the two suspects, both aged 21, had been charged with three offences; conspiracy to murder, conspiracy to rape, and robbery. Submissions should outline a mystery and provide a link to a more detailed review of the case such as a Wiki article or news report. By Ben Ellery In Koh Tao, Thailand For Mail On Sunday, Published: 11:58 GMT, 20 September 2014 | Updated: 15:22 GMT, 21 October 2014. Koh Tao ''Turtle Island'' or Ko Tao is an island in Thailand and is part of the Chumphon Archipelago on the western shore of the Gulf of Thailand. "The past three weeks have been unimaginably difficult and there are no words that can adequately describe the heartache and despair that our family is experiencing. The Koh Tao murders involved the death of two British tourists in Thailand in 2014. What science tells us about the afterlife. Phone records showed that Elise called her mother on Skype on April 17, 2017, before leaving Koh Phangan on a Ferry on April 19. Police major general, Surachate Hakparn, said in an interview that the police have cracked down on crime syndicates on Koh Tao since the backpackers' double . by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:08 am, Post Supposedly these are the first crime scene photos ever taken. "Time makes the pain of this horrendous tragedy no easier to bear," they write. A scuffed copy of the Koran. We admit that in the past, there was a mafia there that took advantage of tourists. They beat Ms Horton, raped her, and threw her into the sea where she drowned. They still maintain their innocence, as they did throughout the trial. While police ruled out foul play, Nick's family, who say officers did not investigate a single witness, believe he was murdered. Replies analysing and speculating over the mystery and possible explanations are encouraged. But they were found innocent by an all white jury. They said it was 'difficult to say' whether the pair's killer or killers was still on the island, and then claimed investigations had pointed them to a group seen on the beach playing the guitar and singing 'western songs'. 'Can they be safe in bikinis unless they are not beautiful?' It has a population of around 1,500 people and the main settlement is Ban Mae Hat. Two Burmese workers, whose names were given only as Saw and Win, are said to have confessed to killing the pair, who were discovered on 15 September. We have some new leads but we dont have any new suspects.. "The past three weeks have been unimaginably difficult and there are no words that can adequately describe the heartache and despair that our family is experiencing. Hannah was a University of Essex student from Hemsby in Norfolk, UK, and David was a civil and structural engineering graduate, from Jersey. Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, of Jersey were bludgeoned to death with a wooden hoe as they walked back to their hotel room late at night on September 15, 2014, on the popular Sairee Beah. Hannah Witheridge seen looking relaxed and wandering streets with . The family said a funeral on Friday would be a private party to celebrate her life. by potty Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:51 pm, Post Six of those have since left and police colonel Kitthanes Thananunthawisin, of the Marine Police Divisions sub-division 6, said he had the names of all the boats and they were being recalled. When is Eurovision and how do you get tickets? 9 Oct 2014. Thai police take DNA swabs and footprints of migrant workers yards from the scene of the murder of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller on the island of Koh Tao in Thailand. She was dedicated, ambitious and would have made an amazing difference to the lives of many families through her chosen career as a Speech and Language Therapist. Ill leave this post up anyway for anyone whos interested. Does UoB look at GCSE grades for business management? They claim they did not receive an autopsy report and say his body was sent against their wishes to the same Bangkok hospital that carried out botched reports on the bodies of two Brits murdered on the same island in 2014. Later it transpires there is evidence of one man's DNA on the cigarette, and of two men in the victim's body. Today, we have gotten rid of them.. The fact that there are a lot of people out there who still somehow defend them is even more unbelievable. This is a terrific answer. Posts on social media said Dallemagne had booked a ticket to Chumphon province, on the mainland, and that her luggage arrived after her death, raising questions of her intentions to take her own life. The last pictures - on night backpackers beaten to death: New CCTV revealed as Thai police investigate copycat killing theory. You are the British Consulate in Thailand. It's GRAYGATE! The police quickly closed the inquiry, stating that he had drowned whilst swimming. Friends told police that Hannah, from Great Yarmouth, and David, from Jersey, left the club together between 3am and 4am. The Ultimate Cambodian Currency Guide 2022: RIEL. They were arrested, confessed and given life sentences. At least eleven European tourists have died or disappeared there since 2014 and it is now described as Death Island or Murder Island.